How to Negotiate a "Pay for Delete" Settlement — Hope4USA (2024)

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by Michelle Black

Most consumers unfortunately do not realize the truth about collection accounts and how these accounts impact their credit scores. Collection accounts of any dollar amount (even $0) have the potential to cause severe credit score damage. The truth is that once a collection account worms its way onto a consumer's credit report then that account is probably going to have a negative impact upon the consumer's credit scores to at least some degree as long as the account is present. Furthermore, paying off a collection account usually will not have the impact of raising a consumer's credit scores.

Paid Collections Usually Remain on Credit Reports

When a consumer pays or settles a collection account the collection agency is responsible to notify the credit bureaus that the consumer's account balance should be updated to $0. (Note: collection agencies often drop the ball and do not update paid/settled collection accounts properly. When this occurs it is ultimately the consumer's responsibility to dispute the error with the credit bureaus. A consumer has the right to dispute inaccurate accounts on his own or with the help of a professional like HOPE4USA.)

If a collection agency and the credit bureaus are all following the Fair Credit Reporting Act properly (BIG if) then a $0 balance collection is actually allowed to remain on the consumer's credit reports. According to the Fair Credit Reporting Act, a collection account is legally allowed to remain on a credit report for 7 years from the date of default on the original account as long as the account is being reported accurately and it is verifiable. Paying or settling a collection account alone is not grounds to force it to be removed from a consumer's credit reports and, generally, paid collection accounts stay put.

Why Paid Collections Still Hurt Credit Scores

The FICO credit scoring models which are currently in use by the vast majority of lenders are built so that they do not care so much about the balance of a collection account as they care about the occurrence of a collection account in the first place. Therefore, paying or settling a collection account will generally do nothing to raise a consumer's credit scores (with the exception of paying/settling a credit card collection). FICO Score 9, announced in the summer of 2014, was built to ignore collection accounts with a $0 balance. However, lenders are not currently using FICO Score 9 and only time will tell whether or not the new scoring model will be adopted in the future. In the meantime, $0 balance collections will continue to have a negative impact upon a consumer's FICO credit scores.

The Pay for Delete Strategy

There is nothing in the Fair Credit Reporting Act which compels or requires a collection agency to report an account on a consumers credit reports. Credit reporting has always been a voluntary practice. As a result, it may be possible for a consumer to negotiate a "pay for delete" settlement with a collection agency.

A "pay for delete" settlement is essentially an agreement for a collection agency to remove an account from a consumer's credit reports once the account has been paid or settled as agreed. In order to properly negotiate a "pay for delete" agreement a consumer needs to be sure to take the following steps.

  1. Call the collection agency.
    To begin a consumer should call the collection agency who has reported the account to his credit reports and offer to settle the account in question based upon the understanding that the account will be deleted from his credit reports once the settlement has been paid.
  2. Get the offer in writing.
    The harsh truth is that collection agents are not always known for being the most honest people on the planet. If a collection agent promises to delete an account after payment is received and does not follow through then the consumer will need the offer in writing in order to have any type of recourse. "He said, she said" simply is not going to cut it if a collection agency tries to renege after the fact.
  3. Check credit reports after the fact.
    The only way to truly know if a collection account has been deleted from a consumer's credit reports is for the consumer to check his credit reports after the collection agency has had time to update the account (i.e. around 30-60 days after payment). A consumer can also subscribe to a 3-bureau credit monitoring service, at least temporarily, so that he will be notified immediately when any changes take place on his credit reports. CLICK HERE to check out some great 3-bureau credit report and score monitoring services.

The Catch

While it is not illegal for a collection agency to delete a paid collection account (remember that credit reporting is completely voluntary), deleting paid collection accounts is something that the credit bureaus frown upon heavily. In fact, when a collection agency signs their service agreement with each of the credit bureaus - Equifax, Trans Union, and Experian - there is language in the agreements which warns collection agencies not to delete collection accounts simply because they have been paid. If a collection agency is caught violating the terms of their service agreements then they could lose their ability to report collection accounts to a consumer's credit reports - a crushing blow to any collection agency's bottom line and something that they want to avoid at all costs.

Negotiating a "pay for delete" settlement is a difficult, often downright impossible undertaking. However, that does not mean that consumers with collection accounts are without hope of improving their credit. CLICK HERE to download a free copy of the HOPE4USA Credit Repair Toolkit for help getting started on your journey toward better credit today!

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Michelle Black is an 13+ year credit expert with HOPE4USA, the credit blogger at HOPE4USA.com, a recognized credit expert on talk shows and podcasts nationwide, a contributor to the Wealth Section of Fort Mill Magazine,and a regularly featured speaker at seminars up and down the East Coast. She is an expert on improving credit scores, budgeting, and recovering from identity theft. You can connect with Michelle on the HOPE Facebook page byclicking here.

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How to Negotiate a "Pay for Delete" Settlement — Hope4USA (2024)

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How to Negotiate a "Pay for Delete" Settlement — Hope4USA? ›

In theory, yes. In fact, it used to be a negotiating tactic that settlement companies would use to get consumers to pay a higher percentage of the debt owed. They would offer to remove the collection account if you agreed to pay a higher percentage of the balance owed.

Can you negotiate a pay for delete agreement? ›

In theory, yes. In fact, it used to be a negotiating tactic that settlement companies would use to get consumers to pay a higher percentage of the debt owed. They would offer to remove the collection account if you agreed to pay a higher percentage of the balance owed.

How to ask for pay for delete? ›

Pay-for-delete letter example

I am (your full name), and I have an account with you (account number). I am reaching out today with a request to pay (dollar amount) in exchange for removing the debt from all credit reporting agencies. If an agreement is reached, I will pay this amount by (date of payment).

What percentage should I offer to settle debt? ›

Some will agree to settle your debt for as little as a third of the total, while others will try to get as much as 80% of the debt paid. You may choose to start your negotiation by offering to pay a low percentage of the total debt — such as around 25% — and negotiate from there.

How much should you offer for a pay for delete agreement? ›

The amount that companies pay for bad debt depends on the type of account and its age. With this in mind, you should always start your offer at 25 percent or less.

How to negotiate a settlement agreement? ›

How to Negotiate the Best Deal on Your Settlement Agreement
  1. Prepare Well for the Settlement Agreement Negotiation. ...
  2. Decide which negotiation tactics to use. ...
  3. Ask for a Protected Conversation with your Employer. ...
  4. Don't ask for too much. ...
  5. Don't ask for too little. ...
  6. Find out how the settlement payments will be taxed.

What is credit repair loophole 609? ›

A 609 letter is a credit repair method that requests credit bureaus to remove erroneous negative entries from your credit report. It's named after section 609 of the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA), a federal law that protects consumers from unfair credit and collection practices.

How do I send a pay for delete offer? ›

In general, your letter should include the following:
  1. Your name and address.
  2. The date.
  3. The creditor or collection agency's name and address.
  4. Your account number.
  5. Proposed payoff amount and terms of the pay-for-delete.
  6. Payment method if an agreement is reached.
  7. Request for written and signed acknowledgement.
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How can I get a collection removed without paying? ›

If there are negative items on your credit report but the information is accurately reported, you can write a goodwill letter to ask the creditor or collection agency to remove the collections account from your report. This isn't guaranteed to work, but it won't hurt to ask.

What is the 11 word credit loophole? ›

As soon as you use the 11-word phrase “please cease and desist all calls and contact with me immediately” to stop the harassment, call us for a free consultation about what you can do to resolve your debt problems for good.

What is a 623 letter? ›

A business uses a 623 credit dispute letter when all other attempts to remove dispute information have failed.

Is it true that after 7 years your credit is clear? ›

Highlights: Most negative information generally stays on credit reports for 7 years. Bankruptcy stays on your Equifax credit report for 7 to 10 years, depending on the bankruptcy type. Closed accounts paid as agreed stay on your Equifax credit report for up to 10 years.

What not to say to a debt collector? ›

Don't provide personal or sensitive financial information

Never give out or confirm personal or sensitive financial information – such as your bank account, credit card, or full Social Security number – unless you know the company or person you are talking with is a real debt collector.

Can I negotiate debt settlement yourself? ›

Debt settlement is best done directly by talking with your creditors yourself. You would typically offer the creditor a small lump payment.

What is the lowest a creditor will settle for? ›

Depending on the situation, debt settlement offers might range from 10% to 50% of what you owe. 1 The creditor then has to decide whether to accept.

Can you request a pay for delete letter? ›

To ask for pay for delete, you'll need to send a letter to the creditor or debt collection agency. A pay for delete letter should include: Your name and address. The creditor's or collection agency's name and address.

Is it illegal to pay for delete? ›

Since pay for delete technically skirts a legal line, debt collectors will rarely agree to it directly. If they do, they typically won't put it in writing. The reason is that if the credit bureaus were to find out that they were removing accounts that were legitimately incurred, it would violate the FCRA.

Will my credit score go up if a collection is removed? ›

Paying off collections could increase scores from the latest credit scoring models, but if your lender uses an older version, your score might not change. Regardless of whether it will raise your score quickly, paying off collection accounts is usually a good idea.

Should I write a pay for delete letter? ›

Consider the status of your credit reporting time limit.

If so, a pay for delete letter isn't necessary—the debt will no longer impact your credit score after the time limit has expired. If the credit reporting time limit is still far away, you may want to send a pay for delete letter.

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