The effect of wider rims on tire width (2024)

Gerard Vroomen 26. Jul ’13 General

Recently, we get more questions about tire width. And many of them are related to the use of wider rims. In particular carbon rims for mountain bikes are getting wider and wider, and with that the width of the tire also changes. What makes sense?

First off, wider rims are a good idea. Having a 55mm tire on a 20mm wide rim is not ideal. The tire can "roll" sideways quite easily, meaning that in corners there is a lot of sideway flex and imprecise steering. Wider rims reduce this and create a stiffer (sideways) tire-rim combination. That means your bike may actually go where you point it.

Additionally, assuming the edges of the rim are properly shaped, a wider rim can reduce the chance of pinch flats.

So far, so good. But what happens with a tire when you put it on a wider rim? Think of a cross section of a tire. We talk about the tire by its width, but what really matters is the total dimension of the "almost complete circle" that the tire cross section describes. Or in other words, the tire cross section together with the inner width of the rim creates a full circle (though I use the term loosely as it isn't round, but it goes around 360 degrees).

Consequently, when you widen the rim and mount the same tire, this total circle becomes bigger. Then the question is, where does this extra material for the tire-rim cross section go?

First of all, it doesn't go into an increased diameter of the wheel. After all, the center plane of the tire (the vertical plane through the tire if the bike is standing upright) doesn't really change. There is a certain amount of rubber that goes around on that center plane, and putting the tire on a wider rim does not stretch the center section of the tire.

Hence, if the cross section of the tire-rim gets bigger and the diameter of the tire stays the same, the extra material has to go to the width. And it does. Putting the same tire on a wider rim means the tire keeps the same diameter but gets a bigger width.

Here the convention of defining tires by their width rears its ugly head. After all, this means that a 2.25" wide tire on a rim with a 19mm inner width doesn't have the same width as a 2.25" wide tire on a 25mm inner width rim. A 2.25" tire on a 19mm rim may have the same width as a 2.1" tire on a 25mm rim.

But that's not the way we think, we think about "this sort of terrain needs a 2.25" tire". "this riding style requires a 2.1", "this bike performs best with a 2.3", "the fastest option is a 2.0". In principle, those thoughts can be correct, as long as we don't connect those widths with whatever the tire says. We have to realize that if we want a 2.25" experience on a 25mm rim, we only need a 2.1" tire.

While this applies equally for all wheel diameters, it may be most important to consider on 29er bikes. After all, many riders are barely starting to realize that they can ride narrower tires on the bigger wheels and still have similar grip. So many people still ride tires that are relatively wide for what they need on their 29er. Add to that a wider rim and you end up with mega-tires (relatively speaking) on bikes that really don't need them. Extra weight and reduced clearance are the result.

Especially in the rear, where clearance between chainrings, chainstay and tire is at a premium, and where grip is rarely an issue for 29er wheels on most terrains, this is something to take into account. On the front, by all means put on a bigger tire if you don't mind the extra weight and like the idea of more grip. But on the rear, you have to realize that more clearance for (unnecessarily) large tires will result in thinner chainstays and therefore more bottom bracket flex.

Finally, this knowledge will also allow you to look at wheel weights in a different way. A wider rimmed wheel may be slightly heaver than a narrow rim, but if it allows you to mount a lighter, narrower tire and still end up with the same effective tire width, maybe the overall weight is not higher. And you would have the benefits of a better ride!

(Don't get me started on the fact that few 2.25" tires are that size on ANY rim because manufacturers fudge their widths to make their tires appear lighter, that's not the point here. The point is that what you think you need a 2.25" tire for, even if it really is smaller than that, might be achieved with a tire called 2.2" or 2.1".)

The effect of wider rims on tire width (2024)

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The effect of wider rims on tire width? ›

Hence, if the cross section of the tire-rim gets bigger and the diameter of the tire stays the same, the extra material has to go to the width. And it does. Putting the same tire on a wider rim means the tire keeps the same diameter but gets a bigger width.

Does rim width matter for tire width? ›

Another reason rim width is so important is because it has a direct impact on how your vehicle performs. Here's how: if you increase your rim width while keeping the same size tire, the extra width makes the tire slightly wider and tightens up the sidewall.

What happens if a rim is too wide for a tire? ›

If the rim width is too wide, you run the risk of the tire ripping away at high speed. For 50-series tires and above, the rim width is 70% of the tire's section width, rounded off to the nearest 0.5. For example, a 255/50R16 tire has a design section width of 10.04" (255mm = 10.04 inches).

How does internal rim width affect tire size? ›

Rim width, tyre volume and tyre pressure

Using rims with an internal width greater than 19mm will therefore see the inflated width of those tyres increase in tandem. A nominally 700 x 28c road bike tyre may actually measure around 30mm wide on rims with a 21mm internal width, for example.

How do you match tire width to rim width? ›

A rule of thumb is to use a rim width 90% as wide as the tread width (not section width) of a performance tire for street applications. This provides a good balance between performance and ride quality. Always be sure that the chosen rim width is within the tire's range of acceptable rim width specifications.

How wide of a rim will a 225 tire fit? ›

7" 8.5"

Why are wider rims better? ›

A narrower tire would have less contact with the surface, potentially making leading to poor handling. They can also be less comfortable, especially on less than smooth roads. Cyclists looking to ride long distances or on bumpy roads would do best with a wider rim and tire.

How much wider can I go on rims? ›

To keep the suspension and speedometer functioning correctly, both the stock diameter and width of the wheels and tires need to be maintained. As a general rule of thumb, it's safe to fit a tire up to 20 millimeters wider than stock on the original rim.

Does a wider rim affect offset? ›

If you are changing the width of the wheel, the offset equation changes completely and you need to reevaluate the offset. So here you go. Since the offset is now CLOSER to the center of the wheel than it was before, this PUSHES THE OUTSIDE OF THE WHEEL 10mm FURTHER out from where it was sitting before.

What is the best rim width for 2.3 tires? ›

25mm wide rims are an ideal standard when you use 2.1-2.3" tyres. However, what we ride for XC, general trail, or marathon and stage races is changing. Many riders are opting to more aggressive tyres (and new school XC bikes) for greater confidence in more demanding terrain.

Can you put a 275 tire on a 9 inch rim? ›

Michelin states that the recommended wheel width for a 275/40/19 is 9"-11". Obviously, 9" is at the lower end of the spectrum but it will work fine.

Can I put 55 tires instead of 45? ›

What happens if wheels are different sizes. In a front- or rear-wheel-drive vehicle, as long as both rear wheels are the same and both front wheels are the same and the suspension geometry is set up to accommodate this, the vehicle will operate fine.

Can I use 55 tires instead of 60? ›

Yes. Tire sizes do vary around the nominal (what's posted on the sidewall) but fir the same by means and moxel going from a 55 to a 60 will add 10.25mm to sidewall height. 99% of the time this is no problem unless your car is a high performance model that has really big summer tires stuffed into the fender wells.

Can any width tire fit on any rim? ›

Tires are a part of the wheel setup. For instance, your vehicle has a set size of rims, but you can buy different sizes of tires to fit those rims, as long as the middle of the tires is the correct size. That being said, a vehicle with bigger rims will often be able to fit larger tires than other vehicles.

Can you put a 225 tire on a 7 inch rim? ›

225mm wide tires will fit fine on a 7" wide wheel. It won't look bulged out at all, relax. 225/45/17 on a 17x7" rim...is that ok?

Can you fit a 265 on an 8.5 inch rim? ›

You can mount 265 35 tires on your 8.5" wheels. I have seen wider tires being mounted on narrower wheels. You should be fine as long as long as the tires are not rubbing the suspension. Some 265 35 tires are wider than others.

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